Gleichzeitig eins und verschieden – Vortrag zu Bhagavad Gita 9.11 von Jayagoura Das
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Als talentierter Musiker bereichert Jayagoura Das zahlreiche Ratha Yatras und Tempel-Veranstaltungen mit seinen mitreißenden und transzendentalen Kirtans.
Er war Inhaber eines Fahrradladens und ist neuerdings im "Un"-Ruhestand. Er ist Vater von neun Kindern und bis jetzt acht Enkelkindern.
Jayagaura Das wurde 1971 von Srila Prabhupada eingeweiht. Er verbrachte die ersten sechs Jahre als Bramacari (Mönch) im Tempel bevor er seine jetzige Frau heiratete und von da an als Grihasta (Haushälter) in Hamburg lebt.
Neben vielen Aufgaben und Berufungen sei zu erwähnen, dass Jayagoura Das seit 1998 Tempel-Präsident des Hamburger Bhakti Yoga Zentrums ist und beim interreligiösen Dialog der Uni Hamburg mitwirkt. Er ist weiter Mitglied des Nationalrates der ISKCON Deutschland-Österreich, Schweiz und Liechtenstein.
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00:00:16: We read from the Bhagavad Gita in verse eleven.
00:00:09: Okay, a lot of wrong?
00:00:17: Right.
00:00:18: that the Lord is the highest Personality of God, not a ordinary human being.
00:00:30: Although He appears in human form... The Personality of the God who leads the creation, healing and annihilation of all cosmic manifestation cannot be a human being!
00:01:00: Therefore there are many religious people who believe Krishna should be nothing more than a powerful person.
00:01:15: In truth, he is the original height of personality as it is also in Brahma's Sanjita established by Ishvara Pradamakrishna Satshidhananda Nishwara.
00:02:04: He is the height master!
00:02:05: There are many Ishvaras or masters who seem to be one size bigger than others.
00:02:11: In ordinary administration facilities in the material world For example, we see that a lawyer or secretary is appointed as the director of this ministry and vice-president.
00:02:29: Each one of them is an Ishwara but the other one is another one.
00:02:35: In the Brahma Samhita it is said that Krishna is the highest Ishvara.
00:02:40: Both in the matthews and also in the spiritual world there are many rulers without doubt But Krishna is the highest person.
00:03:04: I am Paramakrishna and his body does not matter to you at all.
00:03:14: Jai Sikushma Chaitanya Pahutanda Sivaj Vaitagadantam Siva Sarikola Bhaktananda Hare Krishna, Hare Krishna.
00:03:26: Hare Rama, Hare Rama.
00:03:37: Ava Tananti Mammotha Na Manusim Tarav Hashitam Paramparam Acharnathom Mamabhuta Maneshwaram.
00:03:50: So we had last Friday the birthday or the birth day.
00:04:20: This is spoken by the Balarang.
00:04:24: For those who don't know this, do you know what a Balaran is?
00:04:29: No?
00:04:29: You don' t know that right?
00:04:33: A Balaran Krishna was born five thousand years ago.
00:04:39: Krishna is Ishwara-Palama-Krishna.
00:04:43: He's the highest.
00:04:45: The first Krishna is God – the creator of the universe or things like.
00:04:52: I am the universe and the material and the spiritual world.
00:04:57: I, from here everything goes out.
00:05:01: The wise who know it, honor me with all your heart.
00:05:04: Your life has given to me And you have experienced great happiness and kindness By talking about myself In such a way that everyone else does As a member of their hearts.
00:05:23: zerstöre wird der leuchten empfackelter des Wissens, die aus Rundwissenheit geborene Finstern ist.
00:05:29: Das sind die vier wichtigsten Fersen der Bargäu-Gita, Chattri-Schlucki und in dieser vier Fersin der Bargaue Gita ist das ganze Wissen einer Nussschale praktisch zusammengefasst.
00:05:46: You should be able to pronounce twenty-five verses in Sanskrit, German or English and Russian.
00:06:01: If you do Bakhtishastri, Kursusma... And that's very interesting!
00:06:06: There is a German translation of Helmut von Grasenab from the Wecklarn-Vermark.
00:06:13: These are these little hefts That one has two.
00:06:17: This is an translation in verse form because the Wagat Gita, the verses of WagatGita in a metric verse.
00:06:26: That's Rheimsich, and there are always verses that match the ending.
00:06:35: And Professor Helmut von Glasener has translated the Bhagavad Gita into German with the same metric and the same form of verse, which fits together very nicely.
00:06:49: There is a devotee named Acura, Braupenschiller.
00:06:54: He's fourteen years older than me and he's now eighty-eight years old.
00:07:00: And I think he can do all the barbecues in this Elmwood von Glasener version.
00:07:07: This version is actually... Okay!
00:07:10: So from our point of view we should say that it doesn't really matter what we're not able to understand as long as there's something.
00:07:20: So, this is a beautiful literary work.
00:07:25: So Krishna says I am the origin of materials and the spiritual world.
00:07:31: Now we are here where we sit right now Although in the temple you can see that we're sitting in the spiritual realm.
00:07:40: The temple is a message from the spiritual realms And we just sit inside in this room and this room is for Krishna's benefit.
00:07:54: And all the atoms, everything we have here, these atoms are spirited away.
00:08:03: The longer you're in a room more spirited it becomes.
00:08:10: There was once an story of A devotee who was in Heidelberg, came to the Heidelberger Temple.
00:08:22: The temple had already been moved out and there he painted the walls of the restaurant.
00:08:37: Not art but just painting it.
00:08:41: And he sang Hare Krishna.
00:08:43: The devotee went inside and said where is the temple?
00:08:52: Then he heard how Hare Krishna sang.
00:08:58: And then there is also the phenomenon of geysers, for example or music instruments.
00:09:11: When you play them... Because the atoms in a wood, or whatever material it is, they fit into this sound wave and create it.
00:09:26: The music instrument sounds better as longer you play on that, especially when you play spirocephalism.
00:09:41: This energy goes on... because Krishna is the origin of materials and the spiritual world.
00:09:49: The spiritual world also pushes us through, as we are actually also spiritual.
00:09:57: We are all spiritual souls now covered by a material body And according to our karma from previous lives we have received this special body blonde hair, black hair blue eyes brown eyes or whatever.
00:10:19: in a certain way sportsmanship or intelligence.
00:10:27: everything we have now has been working on our lives from the past and this is what the result looks like.
00:10:34: then you can't change much anymore.
00:10:36: You can continue to build up and then you need to tighten yourself and learn something new, if we do something new.
00:10:44: But some things fall to us... You say that many things are falling to you.
00:10:50: Suddenly it's very easy for me to do anything where I have fun with what my nature is.
00:11:02: why?
00:11:03: Because this has been done since the last life so in these lives can be learned really quickly.
00:11:11: Why are we all sitting here?
00:11:15: Because at some point in our lives, or this life before a certain period of time when I was working on the subject and then found out about it.
00:11:31: So that's what I wanted to say.
00:11:33: There is also this Aster Cedis cities that develop into yogic abilities through their practice of yoga.
00:11:49: And one yoga city is, for example, to let things appear which can be called a grenade apple from Pakistan.
00:12:05: and then you have it... You can touch with your fine material The body goes to Pakistan, holds the apple and materializes it back here.
00:12:16: And then you have a city with some yogis as show... ...and that's not fake!
00:12:25: They don't get it out of their hair.
00:12:28: Or they sometimes also have no hair at all anyway.
00:12:32: There are ashes, golden ashes, diamond ashes or something like this in a gold chain.
00:12:41: This is a city that's okay now, but it isn't necessarily so important.
00:12:47: There were also the cities of Jesus for example.
00:12:52: The Catholic Church accepted that Jesus had mystical abilities.
00:13:01: The Evangelical Church rejected this.
00:13:03: They say we don't believe in that stories that one can understand in some form or reality, he did it again.
00:13:15: For example when you could go to the water, Tose healed the healer... He was dead three days ago at a cave.
00:13:32: Lazarus.
00:13:32: And he said, Lazarus stand up!
00:13:39: I saw a video of a priest in Pujari on the Shingadev, half human and half lion who fasted every year for three months by drinking only milk.
00:13:59: And after three months he wails through a three-meter high fire.
00:14:08: It's like a movie.
00:14:10: You throw it into the fire, put your whole body in there, turn around and come out again and you're burned.
00:14:18: Another Indian guy who does parkour in such a big walk with hot fat.
00:14:24: And he did that all the time... ...and at some point he went out of sight with his hand into the fat and didn't burn himself.
00:14:34: Then he noticed He can catch fire with his bare hands.
00:14:39: And take out the parcours like this... ...and then all of them came to see it, and now they're all coming for the parcour that's right next to him!
00:14:49: But he'll just be able to touch it, so you can see how he touches into the fetus….
00:14:54: …and there is nothing at all.
00:14:59: This is a pralatmaharaj which was thrown in by his father's fetus, and then he came back out unconsciously.
00:15:06: There was a devotee named Michel, do you know him?
00:15:13: Michel and Petra.
00:15:16: His father was able to heal fire wounds.
00:15:21: People had burned wounds so he went back home and left immediately.
00:15:26: The father of his great mother I think... Then there's this video from a yogi where they said that it is usually not filmed because its too special.
00:15:44: He had to be a little firm in the eye.
00:15:48: He piqued through his tongue with a needle and cut it off.
00:15:57: With the tip of his tongue, he did like this... ...and then they were back together again.
00:16:02: That means that he was able to make fine dust energy into materials so that the material of the tongue So that is our experience.
00:16:20: and what to say about Krishna.
00:16:23: has different rules in the spiritual world, which we can't imagine.
00:16:31: And Krishna is able to take care of himself.
00:16:35: We see here, for example, that Silke is also taking care of Krishna but I don't think so either and all of us are taking care off Krishna.
00:17:10: All of you are from Krishna!
00:17:16: We're small fountains of fire.
00:17:22: It's a huge fire and we are a small spark.
00:17:26: Or you can say the sun, there is each wave... This light wave has another angle to the sun And that gives us energy.
00:17:43: And every light wave could be seen as an image of life.
00:17:48: We want such a light spark and everyone has one for sure.
00:17:56: We are all individuals and we have a very special relationship.
00:18:02: So the first one who has this relationship is Balaram, we visited him today.
00:18:11: Graganath is Krishna, Balarama in white, his brother, the so-called brother of the first appearance.
00:18:24: Subhathra is the inner energy, the internal energy of the Yoga Maya.
00:18:37: In the Mathian world it's the Durga and in the Swiltran world it is the Yoga Mayan or the Subhadra.
00:18:49: And this Jagannath and Balavan which are both traditional The story of Vasudev and Devaki.
00:19:04: No, that's all there is to it.
00:19:08: So Devaki was Krishna's mother and Vasudeva the so-called father That in the spirit of Vasudev went Krishna into his heart, into the spirit.
00:19:33: In the spirit from Devaki and her heart and in the motherland.
00:19:38: In a wrong way, Krishna appeared to the mother of Devaki And then came out as little baby and immediately showed himself as four-legged Vishnu.
00:19:57: So we know each other.
00:19:59: A little anecdote.
00:20:01: I saw a story of one man, a white-haired man who was looking for a white mother.
00:20:09: His mother and his wife were born twins.
00:20:14: And what happened?
00:20:16: The two twins are brown.
00:20:20: And that's a big story.
00:20:21: He talked to her.
00:20:23: How can this be?
00:20:26: You know why my children are brown!
00:20:30: Then you have to get over it.
00:20:31: This is a small anecdote.
00:20:36: So Krishna, Jesus and Maria and Joseph... We had a devotee Jagabandhu who was called Josef.
00:20:47: When he went to school they always said, ''Maria and
00:20:50: Josef!''.
00:20:52: So Maria and Josefs came from Jesus.
00:20:58: And Maria was pregnant!
00:21:01: And Josef didn't know how that could be.
00:21:03: I wasn't with Maria at the time, where it had to be.
00:21:08: Then he got a doubt about what was happening here and something strange happened there too.
00:21:19: And then Jesus was born.
00:21:25: Also.
00:21:28: Unreflected receptionist called himself that.
00:21:31: Unflecting receptionist.
00:21:32: She simply made a difference for him... In Balaram the Vaki was also called Schwanger.
00:21:41: And she had an embryo in her stomach, of course and this embryo was given to Rohini.
00:21:53: Transferred over with Yoga Maya.
00:21:57: that is the story from Balarama.
00:22:01: Krishna was born so-to-say And then Vasudev Krishna took him as a baby and went to Voldhava with him.
00:22:15: He brought him away, because the danger was that he would be killed by Kamsa... ...and carried him over the moon and so on.
00:22:25: But Balaraam was transferred after the statement of the way.
00:22:33: And then he was born in Rohingya, and Rohingy got up there.
00:22:37: And Kamsa thought that it would be a waste of money.
00:22:46: So we actually celebrated at the Shulium Freitag in Balarams Ashan.
00:22:54: That's why I don't want to repeat everything today.
00:23:00: But you can take a look... We have our YouTube channel, which has registered everything.
00:23:12: Misha took it too and I wasn't like that today but I'm talking about the detys of Jagannath because Jagannat is here today And we can also visit this to see how these detys or figures or whatever you want to call them.
00:23:37: You can also poke them.
00:23:39: Of course, they are purely materialistic from marble and wood.
00:23:49: They can be made out of stone or sand on a football court.
00:23:57: Or in his spirit you can manifest yourself as a Christian.
00:24:03: Schöner Braubert said that one can meditate over it while the Christians sit at their heart on my throne.
00:24:10: The priest said that in Paris, which was in the year of December, you can meditate over Krishna who is sitting on a golden throne in his heart.
00:24:23: You can crush him and you can eat something to eat.
00:24:25: Then one can meditate in their hearts.
00:24:27: One doesn't need so much effort.
00:24:30: There are even stories about someone who cooked something for Krishna in his mind or spirit?
00:24:39: as a meditation.
00:24:41: And when he finished cooking, he thought it was hot enough.
00:24:46: That's what we cooked.
00:24:48: It was really hot and his fingers were burning.
00:24:52: So the mediation is also very strong!
00:24:55: But now we have Jagannath and Balasimha and Subhattva... ...and where in Italy we are living in this visible form.
00:25:09: fixate our mind on this form.
00:25:14: And with that, this maternal form is an external form and the inner form is Krishna who can be counterfeit when we meditate over it.
00:25:30: When the deities are introduced or something like that then a ceremony will take place where Krishna prays Bitte, bitte erscheine in dieser Forme.
00:25:43: Also vorher ist es nur eine Figur oder so?
00:25:47: Die natürlich nicht irgendeine Figur ist sondern die sieht genauso aus wie Krishna aussieht nach dem Vorgaben aus den vedischen Schriften, wie man Krishna darstellt und dann bittet man Krishna... Bitte, bitte, bitte!
00:26:01: Das sind ganz viele Mantras Und Jagdjahres und Opferungen und Feuer... Krishna, bitte erscheine in diese Formen and be manifest in this form.
00:26:13: And then, if you... Then it actually happens that Krishna is counterintuitive in the form.
00:26:32: when one has the possession of love, can you perceive it?
00:26:35: When one doesn't have it, only the external forms are visible.
00:26:37: If one has a possession with love as Pujari, so to speak The topic is that actually Krishna has left the body, or sorry I have a lot of them.
00:27:12: Krishna existed on this earth five thousand years ago in human form.
00:27:24: That's what the Bhagavad Gita says.
00:27:27: When I appear as a human, when I am a human... ...when you are a human he is different from the human.
00:27:45: Like a human?
00:27:46: He looks like a human but it's not a human.
00:27:52: If I pique you then do you realize that you're a human!
00:27:59: But Krishna was no ordinary human.
00:28:04: It looks like a human for us, but it's not.
00:28:11: And Balleram is also a balleram machine although of course he didn't have the skin color as normal people do.
00:28:20: Ballerams had white crystal-white skin color and blue fabric which has a really nice contrast to them the royal blue, and this white Christa.
00:28:40: So Balarama was also not a human being.
00:28:45: And Radharani wasn't even a normal human woman either.
00:28:49: At the end of Krishna there was an issue that all these relatives of Krishna... have left this world after a hundred and twenty-five years.
00:29:04: And then they split up, there is one story that the children of the Yadu dynasty had fun with a wise man who was dressed as a swan and said, look at her, she's a swanger!
00:29:37: And then the journey was over.
00:29:42: They were all going to die at an iron castle.
00:29:49: The castle was razed by a woman who had done this nonsense, and that iron castle was split into small pieces in pieces.
00:30:02: All of the Yard Dynasty was destroyed... They fought against each other and killed themselves with these fallen spears.
00:30:10: This is the end of the Yadus that came out by Krishna, and in the end it was only Krishna's outbreak!
00:30:17: These worlds have been abandoned at the same time.
00:30:22: What were actually heavenly beings who played in the game of Krishna as part of this game?
00:30:32: That would be described in the Shri Mataji.
00:30:34: And Krishna was over there.
00:30:36: Krishna sat in the forest and there came a hunter called Yara, he thought that we were animals so he shot at this animal or it was Krishna's foot and hit his feet.
00:30:53: Then Krishna said okay not too bad of course!
00:31:00: He left this world Bye.
00:31:07: He didn't have a head, that's actually good question.
00:31:17: Balaram has left this world in which Shesha Naga is a snake.
00:31:24: When we sometimes see Vishnu as an introduction of the sleeping Vishnu lies in Nepal, Kathmandu.
00:31:33: There is a sleeping Vishnu lying on a snake.
00:31:40: The snake is Balaram, the Medranga is Balam.
00:31:45: The chair where Krishna sits... All these things that Krishna needs for his so-called paraphernalia are manifested by Balram and Balram has not left the body.
00:32:00: But he left the world where he came from his mouth, the snake.
00:32:09: And the snake was lost in the sea and then there were creatures from heavenly areas who took him with them to the higher worlds.
00:32:18: So Balaram has left this world.
00:32:20: This is how Mausalila plays the last game of Krishna.
00:32:26: Balaram left the World.
00:32:28: Krishna left the Worlds.
00:32:30: Now it's time for Jagannath.
00:32:33: Jagalat is being cut in India, in Russia and Jagalapuri for nine to twelve years.
00:32:51: And this is an incredibly long procedure of cutting.
00:33:00: This ceremony is called Naba Calibara nabakalibaba, the jaganat is newly made.
00:33:15: And to cut these jaganats or find this tree you don't take any tree from a sperm or somewhere here such piece of wood and glue it together into a large block and then cut out the jaganan.
00:33:56: but they have many different devotees who go extra for that Daityapathis.
00:34:09: The Daityapatis go away and they have to find a neem tree, a Magoshamneen tree.
00:34:18: And then you go to Kathakpur for the Mangala Temple.
00:34:21: In this temple you must take into account a certain type of sleep position.
00:34:28: You have to be very particular about what is written here.
00:34:34: So when you find this tree, there is a long list of what needs to be fulfilled by these trees so that they can also use it.
00:34:49: And the first thing is he has to have a dark red color.
00:34:55: He must possess four main branches the sign of Muschelhorn and Chakra.
00:35:09: He has to have a straight line, he must stand near an river or pond, or cross three paths in a landscape with three mountains, lie next to a burning site, have a termite hill nearby , have a snake hole in the roots In the vicinity of a Shiva temple, in the vicinity... ...of an Ashram flying from different places like Varuna, Sahada and Bilva.
00:35:49: No bird nest, no broken or cut-off branches, no parasitic plants or bad plants... ...and no damage caused by lightning storms or other natural events.
00:36:08: So that must be... That has to be everything.
00:36:11: And then of course also the juggernaut... This one here is already big and heavy, but it's got three meters in size!
00:36:25: It's incredibly wide so you can't just lift it up like this.
00:36:29: You have to have six or seven people around your juggerneut.
00:36:34: And now with ballerahms The list is about three quarters.
00:36:41: In Subhattra it's half, and in the Sudarshan it's only one quarter.
00:36:47: So there are similar rules that have to be followed for this tree... ...and then a gold-and-silver axle has to be put into the tree... The fallings themselves are not supposed to be just like normal forks.
00:37:09: They have their own rules there too.
00:37:11: It is turned into fabric and brought back to Ture with finished wagons, which the wagon itself was built out of wood.
00:37:22: And then it finally comes to Koli Vaikuntha in Jagannath Temple.
00:37:28: So here you can see all these lists from Sudarshan Balagamsbaum.
00:37:37: And then comes the whole hook, which, for us... ...which has made me a bit confused.
00:37:48: But what you can see here is that it's practically in the juggernaut from behind.
00:38:03: there are holes and inside this hole is a big secret.
00:38:09: It's called prana platica.
00:38:10: There will be from the old juggernut.
00:38:11: from this, in the hole back there is something taken out and put it into the new Jagannapuri.
00:38:49: So... And history is a story that does not stand in Barbatapurana but also doesn't get supported.
00:39:02: actually That's one of the stories which has been handed down internally by the Jaganapuri and they say This is not our philosophy.
00:39:20: So be careful, this isn't in your spirit.
00:39:27: A mixture... Could you make a rule first?
00:39:30: A fine-stuff one?
00:39:32: That's not no!
00:39:34: No!
00:39:34: Never!
00:39:34: They say Krishna as a Maushalila died as human beings and they burned Krishna and what could not be burned was his heart.
00:40:00: And this heart is the one that's in Jagannath, the heart of Krishna... ...and it will be taken out then!
00:40:12: That means Krishna-Jagannath is boundless because the heart from Krishna is inside him.
00:40:18: This is the internal Jagannad-Urushan philosophy.
00:40:24: No one knows about this, there are only very few.
00:40:27: It gets dark.
00:40:28: this heart of Krishna was taken out from the juggernaut and put into another juggerneut.
00:40:36: So that meant, that Krishna had to have a human form And these human forms were then seen.
00:40:48: They burned him in this body of Krishna's body.
00:40:52: What could not be burnt is his heart.
00:40:55: That was like fire.
00:40:56: I don't know if you've seen it before.
00:41:00: And they never took that into account in Jagannabad.
00:41:03: But this is not our philosophy, because Krishna... We have read today and I am the originator of the material world where Krishna says, stupid people are spying on me when I appear to be a human being.
00:41:16: Because the transcendental nature of my appearance knows about my activities, the body will no longer become a material world after it has left its body but reach here like the Reich.
00:41:29: Transcendental in nature, I am transcendental because I'm not a human with flesh blood and bones and the dead body suddenly flows through somewhere.
00:41:44: That's how it is, that's what we're talking about.
00:41:47: But the idea of Jagannath... Regardless of this story with the heart, it is still present in these jagannaths.
00:41:57: And then there's also the fact that I wanted to talk about Jagannapuri because many people are not aware Religious direction, Jagannath is different than we see it.
00:42:31: And there's the example of Gaudiya Vaishnavism and that's us.
00:42:35: We worship Krishna as Gaudia Vaishnava and we see Jagannatha as Krishna.
00:42:46: And we see Krishna in him.
00:42:49: like history was that the Gopis have Krishna Balaram and Subhadra visited the battlefield of Kurukshetra.
00:42:59: And when Krishna saw Radharani, he advised in an ecstasy that his glutes were drawn into his body.
00:43:17: Before ecstasies!
00:43:18: This symptom has also been manifested by Shatana.
00:43:22: That is now a very internal high-end esoteric information.
00:43:28: But this body was pulled in before ecstasy, and that's why you can see Jagannath in his form.
00:43:34: And that is why Shaitanya Mahaprabhu also lived there for the last eighteen years of Jagannatpuri.
00:43:43: So we call him Krishna.
00:43:46: And then the normal Vaisnavast – normally I mean those who don't eat special Krishna but more Vishnu or Rama, or Vita.
00:44:00: These are all Vishnu forms which worship Lakshmi and Narayana.
00:44:08: They do not worship Krishna with these games that he played
00:44:14: etc.,
00:44:14: they worship Vishnu in the form of a king.
00:44:20: A king worships God.
00:44:25: with great respect!
00:44:28: This is a Vishnu form.
00:44:29: And they see Jagannath as Vishnu, Bodhisattva man.
00:44:34: Then there's the Odhya-Jagannath tradition that I've never heard of before but they just see him as Jagannatha.
00:44:53: So then comes Shakti-Shaktiismus.
00:44:56: Shakti, Kalima, Shaktihe, Indiana Jones and The Heart Is Todes Temple, that's Toto.
00:45:06: You know him?
00:45:07: Indiana Jones.
00:45:10: We don't honor Shiva and not the women of Shiva like Bairava or Balwavi or Durga or Kalima but those who honor Shakti, they honor Jagannath as Bairava or Shiva.
00:45:33: Then there is the Buddhist tradition, which also refers to Jagannath as Tantrish.
00:45:43: Then there are the Jains in India.
00:45:50: You know what they were?
00:45:56: If you fly with Air India or with KRM and you want to order your food then I would say vegetarian food.
00:46:10: Then they have to bring the eggs, because that's what vegetarians call eggs.
00:46:16: But then you must say I want Jines like the Giants Because the Gians eat just as much as we do, no onions, no garlic, no eggs.
00:46:30: So very pure, super pure.
00:46:32: They are even more pure than us, they don't eat potatoes yet because they grow underground The fakes of the way before, when they ran to them and didn't want to destroy the ants.
00:46:50: They don't jump into water because they kill with ants or animals... ...they also don't sew up with a needle as well since they kill small creatures there.
00:47:02: Last time I was in Munich where we sat together and the martyrs always made these little dots for our children at some point.
00:47:11: And then I sat there, and she said that in my religion we don't eat potatoes.
00:47:18: So I asked her which religion did you have?
00:47:21: She replied yes i am Jain but they thought these dots for the children.
00:47:27: so it was a nice indian language But they were jain.
00:47:32: They are also from Jagannath and there is the Sabar tradition is a stem from the forest in the vicinity of Urusan.
00:47:48: And there's this long story by Jagannath, by Nila Madrava and King Indradjumna where the King Indradyumna in another age than we have now wanted to worship Krishna because he had seen Krishna at some point.
00:48:10: He wanted to find Krishna, but he didn't know where Krishna was.
00:48:18: So he sent his servant away in order for him to meet Krishna because he had heard that there would be Krishna somewhere.
00:48:33: And this servant visited Krishna two years ago and he almost forgot about it... And he fell in love with a princess of Sabarastam.
00:48:49: He fell in his love for her, and then at night he noticed that she was always gone... ...and asked him where are you going to spend the night?
00:49:09: I couldn't say anything about it!
00:49:13: Then he said we're married so there must be no secrets before marriage.
00:49:16: And then she said, yes I'm going to her kitchen.
00:49:19: My father is going to my kitchen and after that I'll go back to the
00:49:21: room.".
00:49:21: Then he said, oh yeah you're right because I had to find this kitchen.
00:49:28: What did I totally forget?
00:49:29: So can't you take me
00:49:36: there?".
00:49:36: She said no, no it's not what my father does for a living or something like that.
00:49:43: Then daughter...I want to do that.
00:49:45: Then she asked him, okay you have to connect your eyes and we don't lead through the forest.
00:49:54: And then he said, okay let's do it again... He took a little rope with him and always stroked her while walking.
00:50:03: When they opened their eyes, there was Krishna in the forest of the Sabarra king.
00:50:09: This forest resident, that is why it was... ...Krishna, okay!
00:50:15: And his eyes back and forth.
00:50:18: And then he went there once, because the plants were grown there and they had been destroyed.
00:50:24: And when he was there... He took the king too!
00:50:25: He took him to the king.
00:50:26: That takes a long time until these plants grow up.
00:50:29: He took it to the King who came with his entire entourage.
00:50:32: Then he led them towards that place where Krishna was gone.
00:50:42: Krishna wasn't around anymore.
00:50:44: And there is the king completely... What should I do?
00:50:47: And then he wanted to change his mind.
00:50:51: Then he had a dream where Kuschner was born and said, you have got to put wood in it.
00:50:59: It's been swammed by the Uryssians at the Indian Ocean.
00:51:03: A big wooden block is coming out of there so that Kuschners can be cut off as well... ...and then this huge wooden block actually came into it!
00:51:13: But it was hard for him because no one could cut it down.
00:51:21: And then an old man came and said, I can do it for you.
00:51:29: But...I'm doing this but don't let the door open before I'm
00:51:39: done.".
00:51:40: He started to chip-chip-chimp-chim and at some point he stopped hearing that noise from these people.
00:51:47: And then the door was opened and the stand in Jagannath, as if it were standing on our altar.
00:51:55: With such closed hands without hands... A big face with no arms or legs.
00:52:03: And he was completely finished again!
00:52:08: I made a mistake.
00:52:08: Then Krishna came back to his dream machine and said exactly that everything is fine.
00:52:15: you have now to paint him and so on.
00:52:18: And then he was painted like this, which is in the short version of the story.
00:52:28: that's very detailed.
00:52:28: These are the Sabarra traditions – they're still in Jagannapuri but also for the Jagannaths here.
00:52:47: Then you have Brahmapadahtha….
00:52:53: The heart of Krishna is taken out and entered into this Jagannath.
00:53:02: And then it's said, you should take the Darshan from the Deities.
00:53:05: Darsham means to look at and see.
00:53:09: That's why here in Jagannad there are so many eyes because one should look at the eyes of Jagannat.
00:53:16: Through these eyes we get in contact with Krishna through those big eyes that will explain again... I see the deities and Krishna sees you.
00:53:29: Krishna sees me, Krishna sees yourself anyway now also because he is in your heart.
00:53:35: Krishna has such a video camera in his heart to watch all the time from inside.
00:53:43: In Daim auch ist auch Krishna und er guckt sich ständig was du machst.
00:53:47: Und dann kann man ganz genau wissen was du denkst alles.
00:53:53: And then you can see that Krishna also sees me.
00:53:58: I see Krishna and this is a help, it's not an idol worship.
00:54:03: God's service.
00:54:05: We are being thrown forward and we do God's services, that is a god.
00:54:15: The Christians as Abraham have in the desert to get the ten bounties from God.
00:54:26: The inhabitants of his people said they needed one god And they put their gold together with a golden skull out there.
00:54:54: That's what we shouldn't do.
00:54:57: We should not cut anything ourselves or build something and lose it.
00:55:09: as God, of course everything comes from God but that is the God's will.
00:55:13: And then they danced again in a very typical way that here in the world natural things like gold, and then there is another question.
00:55:36: The old body of Jagannath when it's taken out?
00:55:43: When you get a new form from him he will ask for an old one.
00:55:50: That would be when he gets into an earthy procession.
00:55:55: The life, the so-called vitality of Jagannath has been transferred into the new body.
00:56:11: In this way it is a bit like how we were born again.
00:56:20: Yes I'm only talking about the Jagannat in Kuri.
00:56:29: So this is not the juggernaut, which stands there and has a hole in it.
00:56:37: The juggernuts that we have here are of course not with the heart.
00:56:44: There's nothing inside.
00:56:45: As far as I've heard, even the Juggernuts in Berlin were cut out from wood where the original juggernut was cut because the board always breaks something up And the dates in Berlin are made of wood, where they have been searched for so long.
00:57:02: So that's what is special about wood.
00:57:05: But these dates are just juggernauts... There are many juggernas meanwhile.
00:57:17: Smalls, bigs and all kinds of things like this.
00:57:22: That was the story from San Francisco.
00:57:25: He has Valati and Ciamassundra.
00:57:30: This book exists ...shooting the Reno, chasing the Reno.
00:57:38: So it's actually an example of something impossible.
00:57:56: It is not possible to shoot as precisely as Jonah could have done, but this Sianosundra and the Malatis did a lot at the beginning for the Christian lifestyle... ...and made a lot of extraordinary things that were especially animated by The Beatles or George Harrison.
00:58:49: This is from George Harrison.
00:58:50: He produced this melody and music piece in Apple Studio, London.
00:59:01: This song, Govinda comes from George Harrison.
00:59:08: And Seamusundra had the vision to activate Beatles and become the red one... ...and he simply thought that I would do it!
00:59:18: And then she came to London and Braup said they should come to London too.. ..and then he actually managed to contact George Harrison And the Beatles had already heard of the Shiaplatte of God himself somewhere.
00:59:35: So they were, so to speak, inspired by Christianity.
00:59:39: but then he won him as a friend and I was very much in touch with them.
00:59:45: His wife Malati also was so Calibur-like.
00:59:48: And she was at the beginning of San Francisco.
00:59:56: She had such a small baby, Saraswati.
00:59:58: And even though she had the baby... ...she would pull all of these things back and forth... ...predigion, postage distribution in temples or anything like that with her baby.
01:00:10: At some point they went around and came to this little juggernaut on it's own.
01:00:17: And then she came up to him and said look what I've found there!
01:00:22: And he said, and then he got scared.
01:00:25: And then she said, well my guru is devouring himself from this little figure.
01:00:28: He had to be a specialist in that and he asked me if it was Jagannadas Universums?
01:00:36: There must have been even more!
01:00:42: Where did you get them?
01:00:44: Well yes I found these in an Indian store.
01:00:46: She also got those.
01:00:48: Basically they were just taken with her.
01:00:56: And he said to us, Jagannath has come here.
01:00:59: That was the first day before Radhakrishnan and Gornital.
01:01:04: They have now arrived at Jagannat.
01:01:09: Can you cut them?
01:01:11: He told his husband that he had to do it on the table.
01:01:15: So he cut these jagannaths.
01:01:20: He went to San Francisco with his juggernaut.
01:01:26: Then he needed three extra longs, because he wanted it to stay in San Francisco for a very long time.
01:01:41: So he made it really slow so that it would last longer and then he returned himself.
01:01:49: And at some point the need came back and said let's go!
01:01:54: And then there was a box of Malboro cigarettes on the head of Jaggernaut.
01:02:01: Because at that time they still did things we don't do anymore now, and well it's like in the beginning period.
01:02:11: And also those who have Jaggernat are called a car with such a back platform on top, a kicker.
01:02:21: And there they put Jaggernatt onto them Once.
01:02:24: they took Jagannath with them to the park.
01:02:26: They just took him and put him in a parking lot on the tracks, and then Paul said that's actually not right here.
01:02:33: Although you can see that Jaganath is now simply standing on the track.
01:02:39: And after that they put him onto this flatbed truck.
01:02:43: so his hand, where he has such a platform at the back of it... ...and there was some kind of power generator which was really loud as well!
01:02:53: and they couldn't hear it anymore, because the thing was so loud.
01:02:57: And then Jamasundra looked into the strobe and saw where he drove in front of him.
01:03:03: He carried this smell out and drove like that.
01:03:08: That's the first time you've seen anything like this before?
01:03:20: No no here exactly!
01:03:21: Then Jamasunder had... In London John Lennon from the Beatles gave him a place where he was allowed to build on such an area in the middle of London.
01:03:40: He had this basic piece and they asked John Lernon if he could build his car there, but then he built it from there to the place where they started, Trafalgar Square.
01:03:57: That's in the city center.
01:03:59: and then the cars broke together on their way back because it was so heavy that it had been calculated And somehow the car broke down and they could have done this first time without having to make the car.
01:04:27: Then he built the altar in Sevenbury Clairs, near Oxford Street.
01:04:32: The first temple was built under this altar and down there was Rada on Krishna and up there was Jagannath to bathe him on a boat like this.
01:04:44: And then it was the opening of the temple that took place behind the altar.
01:04:51: He broke up with us because he worked three days and nights to make everything ready.
01:04:58: But it wasn't finished yet, so he sat in the back of the altar and wanted to take a breath... ...and then this board fell down by itself on its own.
01:05:14: So that the juggernaut wouldn't fall off.
01:05:19: And then he put it back on and the altar was built.
01:05:24: Everyone thought that everything would be fine, but then the first Atheism was made in Russia.
01:05:30: The Janangans, the Atheists... My pastor is from Germany.
01:05:43: So all of this isn't so easy to pass away?
01:05:45: Although we are Christian servants, it is sometimes not the case that Christians have to overcome such problems.
01:05:57: Our ego has to overcome them.
01:05:58: Ok, do you have questions or comments?
01:06:02: Yes I only have one question and the other small one.
01:06:08: The cut?
01:06:11: Yes, so according to this description it wouldn't be right.
01:06:25: They bury them But if they... This is a new tree that's relatively big and they fall down And there remains a lot of wood left over I guess because Balaram has to have the same kind of tree for Balram Because Balram has other plants For the trees.
01:06:50: So the rules, the money for Jagannath Next to a tree, they don't pay for the ballerina.
01:06:56: They have to be filled with other things.
01:07:01: That's why it is another tree and I think there are just a lot of wood.
01:07:07: There aren´t any other juggernauts.
01:07:23: Only one in Juggernaut-Pubble.
01:07:28: We also have... we can say that I don´t know.
01:07:30: We still got more.
01:07:34: One is standing on the edge as well.
01:07:36: And at home too!
01:07:37: It is told to us by the king of Jagannath Puri, that we do not make Rasa Yatra on the same day as in Jagannatha Puri.
01:07:51: We must not fire it at night and then we have to do this on a different day.
01:07:56: And the Pandits or the Pujaris from Jagannad now influenced the king so that he complies with us.
01:08:11: He can't blame us in that sense, but he does the propaganda so we don´t have to do it.
01:08:19: It's not okay at all.
01:08:19: I don't know when he was in Berlin or in Rassajatra... When we were still in Kudam in Rasserjata in a memorial church there was the king of Jagannapuri and he also faked his way with bees and he found everything very good for good.
01:08:45: And now, thirty years later or twenty years later, he is under pressure from these people who are trying to stimulate us.
01:09:00: And that's practically... we're actually... there are the barbarians, barbarian.
01:09:06: We are those who preach.
01:09:09: There are some Indian rules that are so strict, how to do everything.
01:09:19: What you always have to do after a strict rule is actually the deity violation in this direction.
01:09:29: I don't understand it now but there's one term which means we follow the rules and especially these rules for deity violations that they have to keep everything for rules.
01:09:41: And we also have all the rules on the altar, like this.
01:09:44: and then there are those who go out deliberately preaching, so the ones who keep the rules say you can't be softener if not born as a softener.
01:10:04: The Hindus also say we don't preach but we do not have any mission.
01:10:09: There is no missionary activity in Hinduism, because they say you have to be reborn.
01:10:16: You are reborn like this?
01:10:18: And if that should happen then you will be reborn as a Hindu and then you become a Hindu.
01:10:25: That's it!
01:10:25: Then we don't have much to mission now.
01:10:30: but Chaitanya Mahatma Bro has put the Missionary Aadha there.
01:10:35: The Missionary Adha is we preach... And everything that is helpful for the preaching, this is the highest rule.
01:10:48: Utility is the principle.
01:10:49: Cleanliness is power.
01:10:51: Books are the basis.
01:10:53: Purity is the power.
01:10:54: Utilities are the principle and books are the base.
01:11:00: That means utility of the principle which doesn't mean how we did it earlier that we stole the flowers from the English garden.
01:11:12: And then we fell in love with it.
01:11:15: In the morning, when I woke up so early... We had a temple on Paradise Street as its name says here at the English Garden and I was there and they had a big bathtub full of flowers.
01:11:28: where did you find them?
01:11:29: They were in the English Gardens.
01:11:32: That's all for tonight!
01:11:34: Everything belongs to Krishna and that's why the flowers belong in the English garden too.
01:11:40: We also belong to Krishna, we only give Krishna as a sacrifice.
01:11:45: Why do you care about it?
01:11:47: That is extreme of course!
01:11:52: We shouldn't think everything was right back then... We can do anything for Krishna.
01:12:03: And so on but we should practically and spread Christianity in Russia.
01:12:12: And if we all celebrate Rassayatra on the same day, then there is only one place to choose from.
01:12:20: We have to build six wagons or have six Jagannathedis... ...and everyone has to split up into these six groups because there are just ten of them standing here.
01:12:35: They make a little bit of Pooja and they think it's weird.
01:12:43: And that's what they do all over the world.
01:12:50: Everyone is comfortable with it, everyone at the same time... ...the turkis and the racer-jattras have to build their wagons everywhere.
01:13:13: You can do everything but you don't really need them.
01:13:17: That's why Braupel said we're just too much.
01:13:24: So he asked me if I could do something about it?
01:13:37: No, they don't do that.
01:13:41: Well, they don't accept all the Vaishnavas to preach.
01:13:58: Or they say you can preach but within the rules or there are so many rules that it's not good for them at all.
01:14:12: and this is a restriction.
01:14:13: then means we're no Vaishnavastra.
01:14:16: We aren' t Brahmans.
01:14:20: We can go home.
01:14:21: It's all fake.
01:14:25: After their rules We are all fake.
01:14:27: Because we were not born as Hindus, and that's why we can't do it like this.
01:14:39: And then there is no more peace.
01:14:42: And he said, we are not Indians.
01:14:45: We're no Germans or Russians or any Afghans.
01:14:58: We are spiritual souls.
01:15:00: We depend on the body a soul that doesn't have a sign of physicality in some form .
01:15:09: We are all spiritual souls and when we pronounce the name of Krishna the name of Krishna is so strong that we are cleansed by the purification through this matriarch.
01:15:28: The indian color was purified, maybe not quite as much a little bit and the others...we're more purified.
01:16:05: but still no matter which purification we have can be purified with the chanting of the holy name.
01:16:18: This is Chetanus, that's what he said.
01:16:22: And it works too!
01:16:23: What do you think?
01:16:24: What was the sentence?
01:16:30: That's true.
01:16:39: Maybe for Indians it's okay because there are so many devotees, they can get this maybe.
01:17:02: But where in India the court can also give that up again.
01:17:20: Sometimes it's just that you don't want to accept.
01:18:00: You can say Shiva, Devotee is also not a Christian.
01:18:14: There was this Devoteet from Ramachandra with Chaitanya Mahaprabhu together and he always had the name of Rama in Citta.
01:18:24: And there we have Rambhakta.
01:18:26: Actually our Vasudeva Godbola is also a Rambakta.
01:18:32: They have the heart of Ramachandra, Sita and Hanuman.
01:18:41: And he said to Chantel the name of Krishna... ...and then he tried to do it at night but in the next day he thought I can't do that.
01:18:52: So he gave me the name for Krishna.
01:18:56: For me is Hanukes, Ramachandra my spiritual form.
01:19:05: Some have a certain taste or relationship to Christianity, some have that of Ramachandra or Vishnu.
01:19:19: There is also a Shingadif-Bakhtas which are fully fixed on the Shingadi.
01:19:25: That's in your heart.
01:19:28: It isn't any intellectual... That can't be, or you're not allowed to do that because the other is better.
01:19:37: It doesn't work like this.
01:19:43: I had him as a child when he was three years old and then I had a teddy bear.
01:19:51: And we left it in the train.
01:19:56: Then my mother said she would buy me exactly the same... No!
01:20:01: That's just... I can't take another one that looks exactly the same.
01:20:08: You were as a child, you are so strong to identify with your toys or dolls and what kind of games do they play?
01:20:23: That's also why children should give a Christmas doll when they're little because they have such a strong relationship with Christmas.
01:20:37: My wife used to play with the Kuschnerpuppen.
01:20:41: And then we always played it in the Kuchnerpappen, and after that I was so flattered!
01:20:47: There's a lot of inside-the-house stuff out there... The head is where everything was.
01:20:52: We've still been playing well.
01:20:53: But they developed such an emotional relationship between us.
01:21:02: That's just what we're doing now.
01:21:06: Unfortunately our game started later on.
01:21:11: that life is almost half gone again.
01:21:13: That means with eighteen you have the half of your emotional or time-consuming past, because the time before eighteen when one is small takes everything incredibly intensively.
01:21:29: It goes really in like such a soft growth.
01:21:33: The impression... The Sankt Skavas go into the consciousness as a little child.
01:21:41: When you're only eighteen, you've practically lived half of your life already and we started when I was eighteen.
01:21:49: but it should never be too late And that's why one should eat as early as possible with this.
01:21:57: That is also an emotional very strong emotional relationship to eat.
01:22:09: And I have a picture of myself hanging at home.
01:22:13: It's painted on fabric, there is Krishna on it and that's so poorly made!
01:22:19: So when you draw three-dimensionally graphically from this side it's totally next to each other.
01:22:28: But the eyes of Krishna are so present.
01:22:32: Everything else is a bit strange but Krishna's eyes are totally different.
01:22:38: And then my daughter said, oh Krishna is in this picture of these eyes.
01:22:44: Only because he had those eyes.
01:22:49: There's a teacher called Vasudev Oliver Herthel who is an artist.
01:22:54: He has a gallery here at Bergdorf in the old station from Bergdorff and he painted Krishna.
01:23:00: And he meant that one day only one eye was painted by Krishna That one eye was painted by Krishna.
01:23:11: And then he observed himself as his hand is painting like this, and Krishna became present in the picture.
01:23:24: There's also a picture in the Bhagavad Gita where we describe what to do for Krishna, regulating the principle of giving full service... ...and the best thing about it were pictures from Krishna.
01:23:34: You only see Krishna when you are fully on Krishna!
01:23:37: And he had this eye.
01:23:38: He meant his eyes were lively and he could see Krishna in the picture, because you have concentration for hours on that image.
01:23:49: Or...he didn't paint it himself but it was painted by him.
01:23:56: He just had an instrument for Krishna and the image of him from Krishna was painted through him again.
01:24:03: Like the guru.
01:24:04: The guru would expect a transparent medium Glesam, Krishna is in there and through the body, hand or everything that Guru does, he treats Krishna.
01:24:18: It's to feel the presence of Krishna with pure God-given what ever he does because he doesn't stand between himself and the outer world but rather is a completely given Krishna.
01:24:37: An instrument in the hands of Krishna is like a puppet.
01:24:39: And then you become empowered, then you are empowered to preach from Krishna.
01:24:46: if one makes himself an instrument of Krishna and that's what they notice on the street, the books distribute They notice how Krishna leads them and say the right things, make the right movements, make proper chakras... ...and then they can distribute the right books because Krishna runs through it.
01:25:20: And if you notice that Krishna is working through it, then this is ecstatic.
01:25:26: It's a bit difficult at the beginning to know how far you are and see what happens.
01:25:29: But everything can be done.
01:25:31: You can cook for Krishna or you can do anything you want with all of this.
01:25:40: Maharashtra, he has to feel practised.
01:25:44: Kansdhu gift me shafran.
01:25:49: Shafran?
01:25:49: Do you want to become Sanyasa?
01:25:52: Go ahead!
01:25:52: Go ahead... You can't give me Sanyasha today.
01:26:04: Today?
01:26:06: Kansduh?
01:26:06: Yes.
01:26:07: Now go and eat.
01:26:10: Not now, later.
01:26:11: Saffron?
01:26:11: No, go away!
01:26:13: Yes yes then you will be Brahmatshavi right?
01:26:19: I actually did that with Nitay Charan, do not know him yet.
01:26:23: One of the vodis here was from Croatia and he wanted me to give him Sanyas but Brahmadshavi And there.
01:26:33: i gave him this saffron cloth and a shirt in saffran like your hair.
01:26:42: I did it.
01:26:43: And then behind me, he became aware of the fact that I had given him a kind... ...not an indication but a saffron.
01:26:52: Then I thought to myself how long this will last?
01:27:00: How much longer does he stay in this state of freedom?
01:27:09: But until today for about fifteen years now there is still freedom.
01:27:26: So if you get saffrons right now Then you have to live your whole life for a long time, like in Munich.
01:27:36: Without women and without everything.
01:27:37: Do you want that?
01:27:38: But Russian?
01:27:39: Yes please!
01:27:39: If it's not difficult then fine because I can be my soldier.
01:27:43: but if he doesn't have me... I didn't answer him in German, why?
01:27:45: Because... It doesn't matter.
01:27:47: Just tell me what you want to say.
01:27:48: No need for that.
01:27:49: That's all I wanted to say.
01:27:50: If it is necessary for me to answer the question if someone asks then I'll have to do it separately.
01:28:04: Yes, yes.
01:28:04: I can't do this separately.
01:28:09: It will be okay.
01:28:10: Okay, my turn.
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